Pa. and N.J. want data centers to guarantee their own power supply

Pennsylvania and New Jersey governors join forces with data center industry group to push for self-sufficient power guarantees.

In a surprise move, four US state governors - Pennsylvania, Maryland, New Jersey, and Virginia - have teamed up with the Data Center Coalition, an industry trade group, to advocate for approvals of new data centers that can generate their own electricity. This joint proposal could benefit PJM Interconnection, the nation's largest electrical grid.

According to Pamela Quinlan, a principal at GQS New Energy Strategies, which represents the DCC, this "voluntary and heavily incentivized" plan offers a fast-track approval process for both data centers and their power sources. The idea was presented during a hearing held by PJM as it grapples with soaring energy demands and seeks federal approval later this year to speed up permit reviews.

Under the proposal, data centers would be required to generate power equal to their expected usage, which would then feed into PJM's regional grid, bolstering its reliability. Energy researcher Abraham Silverman noted that this strategy could also boost reliance by new data centers on natural gas.

However, critics argue that this approach may have unintended consequences, including increased reliance on fossil fuels and potential harm to local residents and governments. Paul Sotkiewicz, a former chief economist for PJM, expressed concerns about how states might "short-circuit" processes that affect these groups.

The proposal's specifics remain unclear, but it suggests that states would expedite permitting and siting for data operations. Data centers could generate power elsewhere in the same grid area approved by the state, without being tied to a specific location.

One concern raised by energy expert Joseph Bowring is who should lose power during grid stress, with some arguing that data centers should be interrupted first or last. Monitoring Analytics recommends ensuring the grid can guarantee continual service and reliability before allowing new connections.

The DCC-governors proposal is just one of more than a dozen plans being considered by PJM as it seeks public comment on a rule change meant to add suppliers to the grid. Federal regulators will ultimately decide whether this change is lawful and in the public interest.
 
I think this whole thing smells like a game of supply and demand, but who's really calling the shots here? πŸ€‘ The Data Center Coalition is teaming up with state governors to push for approvals, which sounds like a sweetheart deal if you ask me. It's all about who can get ahead of the curve and reap the benefits. I mean, what's the real incentive here - is it just about keeping those data centers powered on at all costs or is there something more under the table?

And let's be real, this is a classic case of "regulatory capture" where special interests are influencing policy to their advantage. The PJM Interconnection is essentially being forced to play by the Data Center Coalition's rules, which could lead to some serious unintended consequences down the line.

I'm also a bit skeptical about who benefits from this arrangement - do data centers get a free pass on their energy usage? Do local residents and governments get any say in the matter? It seems like they're being left out of the loop here. We need more transparency and accountability in this whole process, imo πŸ’‘
 
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I think it's dope that these state governors are teaming up with data center industry group, though I'm not sure if they're doing it right. I mean, on one hand, having self-sufficient power guarantees could make PJM Interconnection stronger and more reliable. On the other hand, there's a risk of increasing our reliance on fossil fuels and potentially harming local residents and governments. We need to be careful about this move.
 
I'm all about this self-sufficient power thing 🌟, but I gotta wonder, what's the real motive here? Is it really about ensuring reliability for PJM or are we just creating a new path for big corporations to squeeze more energy out of us? Like, have they thought about the ripple effects on local communities and the environment? What if all these data centers start generating power that's not even needed locally? We need to get our priorities straight and think about what this means for everyone, not just the data center industry πŸ’‘
 
πŸ€” I'm not sure I buy into this self-sufficient power guarantee for data centers. It sounds like states are just trying to greenwash their policies and appease the data center industry. Where's the concrete evidence that this will actually reduce our carbon footprint? And what about the impact on local residents who might be affected by these new power sources? We need more transparency, not vague promises of "incentives" πŸ€‘

I'd love to see some actual data on how much fossil fuel these data centers are planning to use, and how that aligns with the states' renewable energy goals. Can we really trust the Data Center Coalition to make decisions in the public interest? Or is this just a sweetheart deal for their members? πŸ’Έ
 
I think its cool that states are teaming up with data center industry group to get their own power, but what if they don't use renewable energy? 🌞 We gotta make sure we're not relying on fossil fuels more than ever, and it's also important to consider the impact on local residents. What about communities that might be affected by all these new power sources? They need some protection too 🀝
 
I'm not sure about these data centers generating their own power, sounds like something from the early 2000s when companies started building huge server farms in rural areas πŸ€–πŸ’». Remember those old IT offices with rows of humming servers? Yeah, it's like that again but instead of just big computers, we're talking entire grids to support these data centers 😊. I'm all for innovation and whatnot, but have you thought about the environmental impact? We should be focusing on renewable energy sources, not just generating power to feed into the grid πŸŒžπŸ’š.

And what about the security aspect? If these data centers can generate their own power, who's going to ensure that the grid isn't compromised? πŸ€” I'm worried we're creating a whole new set of problems instead of solving them.
 
I remember when we used to think data centers were just huge energy suckers 🀯. Now they're trying to make their own power? I gotta say, it's kinda cool that states are teaming up with the industry to get things done faster πŸ’ͺ. I mean, who doesn't love a good fast-track approval process?

But at the same time, I'm also thinking about my grandma's old worries about new developments in her neighborhood πŸ€”. Is this proposal gonna help or hurt local communities? We should be careful not to short-circuit processes that affect people who might get hit with higher energy bills or less reliable service 😬.

Still, I guess it's a step in the right direction for the grid. And hey, if data centers can power themselves and feed back into the grid, that's one more chunk of reliability πŸ’‘. Just gotta make sure we're not sacrificing too much for the sake of convenience πŸ€”.
 
I gotta say, I think it's awesome that these states are teaming up with the data center industry group. It's all about innovation and making things happen πŸš€. I mean, who doesn't love a good power deal? And hey, if it helps PJM Interconnection boost its reliability, then win-win, right? Sure, there might be some concerns about relying on fossil fuels, but let's not jump to conclusions just yet ⏰. Maybe this is the start of something big and we should be excited to see how it plays out πŸ’‘.
 
This data center thing is getting weird. Like, we're all about being sustainable and reducing our carbon footprint, but now these states are trying to get around it by having these data centers just make their own power? πŸ€” I get that they want to boost PJM's reliability, but isn't this just a way of saying "we'll play by our own rules"? And what about the potential impact on local residents and governments? We're already talking about grid stress and who gets power when things go haywire. It feels like we're trying to solve one problem (data center sustainability) with another problem (who loses power in a crisis). Not sure if this is all about making data centers happy or just playing politics πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
πŸ€” I think its cool that states are teaming up with data centers, but we gotta make sure they're not gonna hurt the environment πŸŒŽπŸ’š. Like if they just use fossil fuels to power themselves, thats a no-go ⚠️. We need to make sure they can generate their own electricity from renewable sources too 🌞🌈.

If they do it right, this could be a game-changer for PJM Interconnection and the entire grid πŸ’‘. But we gotta keep an eye on how it affects local residents and governments πŸ‘₯. Maybe we should see some diagrams of what the new power grid system would look like πŸ“ˆπŸ”‹. Like, would data centers be connected to each other? Would they be powered by solar panels? A diagram could help us visualize the whole thing better πŸ–ŒοΈ.

I'm not sure about the specifics yet, but I think its worth exploring this idea more 🀝. Maybe we can even come up with some new ways for data centers to power themselves that don't rely on fossil fuels πŸ”‹πŸ’».

Here's a simple diagram of what the proposal could look like:
```
+---------------+
| Data Center |
| (Power Source) |
+---------------+
| |
| PJM Grid |
| (Regional |
| Electricity) |
+---------------+
| |
| Solar |
| Wind |
| Hydro |
+-------+
```
This is just a rough idea, but it gives you an idea of how data centers could be powered and connected to the grid πŸ’‘.
 
omg u guys i cant even!!!!!!! 🀯 they're actually making data centers have to generate their own power like thats a thing now?? idk what's more lit or terrifying lol. like can u imagine having a huge server room with its own mini grid just chillin in the middle of new jersey?? πŸ€–πŸ’» but seriously what are the cons? i dont wanna be all about it til i see some solid data. btw, if this means less reliance on fossil fuels that's a major win in my books! πŸ’š
 
I'm so down for self-sufficient data centers, you feel? It's all about balancing reliability and innovation 🌐. I think it's a step in the right direction, but we gotta make sure we're not relying too much on fossil fuels ⛽️. The concern about local residents and governments is valid, though πŸ€”. We need to have those conversations and find solutions that benefit everyone.

I'm curious to see how this proposal plays out 🀞. One thing's for sure, the energy landscape is changing fast πŸ’¨, and we gotta be prepared for it. The idea of data centers generating their own power and feeding into the grid makes sense, but we need to make sure it doesn't come at the expense of others 🌈.

It's great to see the governors and industry leaders working together on this one πŸ‘₯. Maybe this is the push PJM needs to streamline its permitting process πŸ’¨. I'm keeping an eye on this development, for sure πŸ“Š.
 
this joint plan by us state govns & data center industry group seems pretty sweet πŸ€‘ if they can make self-suff power guarantees happen, it'll definitely boost PJM's reliability πŸ’ͺ but gotta keep an eye on those concerns about reliance on fossil fuels ⛽️ and potential harm to local residents - don't wanna see states "short-circuiting" processes that affect vulnerable groups πŸ€• gotta weigh pros & cons here πŸ‘€
 
πŸ€” I'm not sure about this, but it seems like we're trading one problem for another... I mean, think about it, data centers are supposed to be eco-friendly and all that jazz, but if they're just gonna generate their own power and feed it back into the grid, what's stopping them from just building more and more? It's like, we're creating a whole new set of energy needs, you know? 🌞 And what about the local residents? Are they just gonna be fine with having more power plants and, you know, pollution? I don't know, man... it seems like we're getting caught up in this whole "self-sufficient" thing without really thinking about the bigger picture. πŸ˜•
 
I gotta say, I'm a bit worried about these new data centers πŸ€”. They're saying they'll generate their own power, but what if it's not enough? We don't know how many of them are gonna pop up across the country. And what about the environmental impact? We've seen enough pollution from data centers already... I mean, have you seen those big servers humming away? 🌫️ Not exactly eco-friendly.

And then there's the question of fairness βš–οΈ. If one part of the grid goes down, who gets to keep their power? Should it be data centers or regular homes and businesses? It's like, what's the protocol here?

I'm all for innovation and progress, but we gotta think about the bigger picture πŸŒ†. We can't just rush into this without considering all the potential consequences. I hope they do more research before approving these new data centers...
 
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