Miscount of NYC mayors spans centuries, archive search confirms

Historical records reveal a centuries-old discrepancy in New York City's mayoral count, leaving Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani with a disputed title: 111th or 112th. For decades, the city has listed Nicolls as its sixth and eighth mayor, but his second term went unrecorded.

The miscount began when Mayor Matthias Nicolls presided over court proceedings in 1674, according to documents discovered by Department of Records researcher Michael Lorenzini. The issue lies with how mayors with non-consecutive terms are counted: they're listed twice, similar to U.S. presidents. However, Nicolls' second term is missing from the city's records.

This oversight has a ripple effect throughout history, affecting even modern-day politicians like Mayor Bill de Blasio and Eric Adams. Their actual titles could be lower due to a misplaced entry in the 2010 Green Book or an outdated list of mayors.

Historians believe that New York City's involvement with slavery began during its founding, including Nicolls' family ties to large parts of Long Island, where they owned slaves. The discovery by Paul Hortenstine has sparked debate about how this period should be addressed in the city's history.

While some officials have called for Mayor-elect Mamdani to acknowledge and correct this historical error at his inauguration on January 1st, others think he'll leave it up to the incoming administration. Historians argue that correcting records can lead to more nuanced understandings of New York City's complex past.
 
πŸ€” This is wild, a centuries-old mistake and now people are debating what the heck? πŸ™„ I mean, I get it, history can be complicated but come on... 1674! πŸ˜‚ How many times have we had to redo math homework because of that? πŸ“ And now, politicians getting their titles questioned because of some entry in a book? πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Like, what's next? People going "Hey, I'm not actually the 111th mayor, I'm just listed as one due to some paperwork issue"? πŸ˜‚
 
"Know thyself." - Socrates πŸ’‘

It's crazy how this historical discrepancy in NYC's mayoral count could affect people's perceptions of the city's leaders, like Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani's title and even modern politicians. It shows how important it is to be accurate with our records and not just leave things as they are because "that's how we've always done it."
 
πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ Like, I'm still trying to wrap my head around this - centuries-old discrepancy in NYC's mayoral count? πŸ™ƒ Who knew Nicolls' second term was like a ghost from the past? πŸ˜… It's wild that his family owned slaves back in the day and now it's affecting modern-day politicians. I guess you could say their legacy is, like, totally complicated. πŸ’€ On one hand, correcting historical records can be super insightful, but on the other hand, it's kinda heavy-handed to make a big deal out of it. Maybe just let Mayor-elect Mamdani get inaugurated without the whole " correct or incorrect" drama? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
idk about all this history drama in NYC 🀣, but I mean... who knew Nicolls' second term was a mystery? πŸ˜‚ like, what's next gonna be discovered - the secret recipe for pizza? πŸ• or maybe the original NYC superhero? πŸ¦Έβ€β™‚οΈ (btw, is it possible to get a recount in this case?) 🀣
 
idk why everyone's making a big deal about nicolls being counted as either the 111th or 112th mayor lol πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ it's just a historical glitch and not like he's some kinda king or something πŸ˜‚ i mean, what's the point of getting all worked up over it? it's not like it changed anything in the city's history. and can we pls not forget that nicolls was involved with slavery too, but let's focus on correcting one record at a time πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ
 
omg, i remember hearing about nicolls being one of the founding fathers and stuff... can you imagine if this was a movie or something? but for real though, it's wild how history is like that - we think we know who's in charge, but sometimes there's more to it 🀯. it's like, what else have we gotten wrong about our city's past? and yeah, i can see why historians would want to get the record straight... i mean, wouldn't you wanna be 111th mayor or whatever πŸ˜‚.
 
πŸ€” This is kinda crazy! I mean, who knew NYC's mayors were listed twice? It's wild how a centuries-old discrepancy like this has been hiding in plain sight. 🀯 As for the impact on modern-day politicians, it's pretty interesting to think about how their actual titles might be lower than they are now. Maybe Mayor-elect Mamdani should own up to it and give himself the correct title? πŸšͺ Either way, I'm glad historians are bringing this to light and sparking a conversation about NYC's complex history. It's all good that we're having these discussions – it means we can learn more about ourselves and how we've grown (or not) over time. πŸ’‘
 
I'm low-key freaking out about this πŸ˜…! Like, I knew our city was old and stuff, but a centuries-old discrepancy in who's officially the mayor? That's wild! And what's up with Nicolls' family ties to slavery? It sounds like we got some serious unearthing going on here 🌳. I mean, yeah, correcting these historical records is important for getting a more accurate understanding of our city's history, but also, can't Mayor-elect Mamdani just own up to it and make it part of his inauguration speech? 🀝 It'd be dope if he acknowledged the issue and paved the way for more nuanced discussions about New York City's complex past. Fingers crossed he does! πŸ’―
 
I'm like "what?!" 😱 this is crazy! I mean, who knew that Nicolls' second term was even missing from the records? It's wild how a single mistake can have so many ripples throughout history. And honestly, I feel for Mayor-elect Mamdani - he's gotta deal with all this drama on his first day in office 🀯. But at the same time, it's awesome that historians are like "hey, we need to fix this" and spark a conversation about New York City's complicated past πŸ’‘. Maybe this is an opportunity for some politicians to re-examine their own family histories? πŸ€”
 
πŸ€” So what's the real issue here? Is it just about getting the mayoral count right or is it about accountability and transparency? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ If we're being honest, this is a classic case of bureaucratic inertia – stuff has been left unrecorded for centuries because no one bothered to clean up the mess. Meanwhile, our politicians are worried about how their own titles will be affected but not much about the real issues that need addressing.

What's the bigger picture here? πŸ“Š Do we really want to dwell on historical records when there are pressing social and economic problems in the city that need attention? Shouldn't Mayor-elect Mamdani focus on what matters most – building a stronger, more inclusive New York City for all its citizens?

And let's not forget about the symbolism of this whole thing. 🀝 If we can't even get our own history straight, how do we expect to move forward and make progress? It's time for some real leadership and a willingness to confront the uncomfortable truths – rather than just sweeping them under the rug. πŸ’ͺ
 
I'm low-key fascinated by how one guy's record is like, super messed up and has been for centuries πŸ’­! I mean, who knew there was a mayor whose second term just vanished from history? It's wild that it affects the way we know other politicians too 🀯. And can you imagine if NYC's whole history was written with holes in it? Like, what about all those years of slavery and stuff? πŸ™

I think Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani should totally address this at his inauguration, you feel? It's not just about fixing the record, but also making sure we learn from our past and don't repeat mistakes πŸ“š. I'm all for nuanced understandings of NYC's history and how it's shaped who we are today πŸ’‘.
 
omg what a huge deal for NYC 🀯... think about all those ppl who might get their title wrong just cuz of this 1 mistake πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ... so now Mamdani's gotta decide if he wants to go with 111th or 112th mayor... and what about his family ties to slavery tho? πŸ’” that's a whole other can of worms right there... i guess it's good that historians are speaking up about it, but still feels kinda weird when you think about all those ppl who might be affected by this πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ... hope they get the records straightened out ASAP πŸ‘
 
OMG u wont blieve whats goin on in nyc lol its like they cant even keep track of their own history 🀯 i mean nicolls could b either 111th or 112th mayor thats wild how did it come down to this? and now theres debate about slavery ties with the founding fams its like, what did we do? πŸ˜” how r u supposed to make sense of that in a city thats always talkin bout bein the greatest? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
This is wild lol... so basically Nicolls was already a mayor twice but they only counted him once? And now the city is all "oh no our record is off" and some historians are like "yaaas let's talk about slavery" 🀯 I'm just here for the drama, but I guess it's kinda cool that we're finally getting more info on old New York City. Maybe they can even make a new list of mayors with all the corrections? Would be interesting to see how this changes up Mayor-elect Mamdani's legacy πŸ€”
 
OMG, can u believe dis?! 🀯 So mayor-elect Mamdani is literally the 111th or 112th mayor of NYC and its all cuz Nicolls' second term was never recorded 😲 And now ppl are debating if they should correct it at his inauguration... like, what's up with dat? πŸ™„ I mean, I get it, history can be complex but we gotta get the facts straight, right? πŸ’― But idk, sounds like a lot of drama 4 not much gain πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ Guess we'll just have to wait & see how it all plays out πŸ‘€
 
OMG u gotta wonder how much else is messed up in these old records lol πŸ€―πŸ“š like if ur 112th mayor is missin 2, u can imagine the drama πŸ˜‚ and what's up w/ all this non-consecutive term sh*t? why cant we just count it straight πŸ’―πŸ‘Š and btw, slave ties to Nicolls' fam is SUPER problematic πŸ€• need some real honesty about the city's history ASAP πŸ’ͺ
 
I mean, what's with all these records being off, right? πŸ€” I'm so sure Nicolls was only 6th mayor and not 8th... no way! πŸ‘Ž But at the same time, maybe it is true that his non-consecutive terms are a thing now? And shouldn't we be looking into why those records got messed up in the first place? πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

I'm so down with correcting these historical errors and getting to the bottom of it. Maybe this means Mayor-elect Mamdani has to start over or something... 🚫 But I also don't want him to get too caught up in all that history stuff, you know? πŸ’β€β™‚οΈ It's all pretty confusing anyway.

I'm just hoping those old records won't cause any more problems for future mayors, and we can finally get some peace about who was the real 111th mayor... πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ
 
πŸ€” I mean, imagine if we found out that our whole lives had been based on incorrect info? Like, what if everyone thought they were 5 years younger than they actually are? How would that change the way we think about ourselves and our history? πŸ™ƒ And this is exactly what's going on in NYC. It's a massive correction needed. But it's not just about the numbers, it's about acknowledging the past and its mistakes. We can't always control how history unfolds, but we can try to learn from it and be more accurate. πŸ’‘
 
I'm shocked that New York City didn't know about this for so long 🀯! It's wild to think that there are like, two versions of a mayor's term in history books πŸ“š. I mean, it's not just Mayor-elect Mamdani's title that's up for debate, but the entire historical record is being re-examined πŸ‘€.

It's interesting how this discovery has brought up discussions about slavery and its impact on NYC's founding πŸ€”. Historians are right to say that correcting these records can give us a more accurate picture of the city's past πŸ”.

I'm not sure what's more surprising, the fact that this discrepancy went unnoticed for so long or that there are actually two versions of a mayor's term in history books πŸ˜‚. Either way, it's cool to see the city taking steps to correct its records and provide a more accurate representation of its past πŸ“.
 
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